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paul Little Goldfish
Joined: 04 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:11 am Post subject: |
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going back to John the baptist in his mothers womb,would it not have been more of a sin in the eyes of God if John had been killed in his mothers womb as to when he was actually killed.
God bless.
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paul Little Goldfish
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:53 am Post subject: |
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was adam and eve really human,as we know human to be today for did the old human die,they knew not of right and wrong,we do.
genesis 3v22.
and the Lord God said,the man is become as one of us,to know good and evil:and now,lest he put forth his hand,and take also of the tree of life,and eat,and live forever.
they had no understanding of right and wrong to choose between it,they only chose to trust something else over God.it was a different world a different life,that can't really be compared to our life today as we have not the mind of it.they weren't capable of sin,until after they disobeyed,then the world was opened up to it,you can say satan was sin,but they had no understanding of this.
God bless.
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Armageddon Newbie Alert
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
There has been much discussion whether abortion is right or wrong. Our heart's belief is our own personal matter and not a matter of other people. What I personally believe to be right or wrong has nothing to do with facts. I've been reading the messages on this board and found them mostly void of substance and proof. Not even one of them had any Biblical passage to offer. Just lots of personal assumptions without substance. Some of you assume that abortion is the same as murder, thus the punishment should be carried out accordingly. But what does God say about abortion?
Even though there isn't any passage referring directly to the modern issue of abortion, there are intelligent clues given, that in my view are clear enough.
EXODUS 21
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22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,...
Several important things can be plucked out of that passage. For the first, God sees the death of the fruit in the womb as serious, yet not equal to full-grown human life. The penalty for the "abortion" is not death, but is rather left to the mercy of the husband and the judges. For the second, it is clear that God doesn't equal the life of the mother with the life of the fruit. If she would die, then the penalty would be obviously death, not otherwise.
I hope this message will be an eye-opener for some and an invitation to search the scriptures for others.
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RevJP Puppy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
    Posts: 214 Location: State of Grace
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Ditto what I said in the other thread... |
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