Is hell real?

Jubilee · Not So Newbie Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 9

I have talked to Christians who believe in hell and those that belive hell is not an eternity of suffering just an absence of G-d, which would be hell for them....

I don't understand how a just and loving G-d can send his creations to suffer for an eternity?

I believe there is more to life than science but I don't believe the bible in infalluble, it is after all only written, and translated, by man.

I live my life from a place of questions, and i am on a spiritual journey (not believing there is a final destination, besides maybe enlightenment). I grew up Christian and my mother is a very devoted Christian.

I am not concerned about going to helll, because any intelligent being responsible for my being here simpy could not inflict an etenity of suffering on creatures (us) who did not ask to be here, especially when he gave us inquiring minds, and no true scientific evidence in the bible. So what do you guys think of hell? Who goes there? What is it?

Jeannie · Tadpole Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 17

Not to sound rude just a blunt question if you dont mind.........

Is God real? Is Christ real? Is heaven real?

Once you find the answer to these questions you will find the answer to your question, "Is Hell real?"

If you feel like jumping ahead though give me a hollar and I will find all the scriptures that actually decribes hell, hades, the abyss, the firey pit. etc.
Just to get you started though, yes hell is very real and not just a place where Christ will be absent from.

Give me a hollar if you want proof
Jeannie

t-shirtsnjeans · Tadpole Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 23

Here's an example that I've used before for a loving God, parent, pet owner, etc:
God says "If you love Me you keep my commandments, and here are the rewards for keeping my commandments, Heaven, eternal life, mansions, streets of gold, pure joy and love free of tears, etc. Here's what you get if you go against my commandments, hell, damnation, eternal fires of burning sulpher, lonliness, suffering, gnashing of tongues, eternal thirst and hunger, etc."
Do we get a choice of Heaven or hell? Sure, it is laid out for us. We know our consequences, and God is a God of followthrough, He does what He says He is gonna do. You keep His commandments and you have eternal life with joy and love. You go against His commandments and you go to hell.
Now then, compare this to a loving parent, "If you keep your room clean and your homework done I will take you to get ice cream on friday. If you don't keep your room clean and homework done I will take away your tv." The child has a choice of ice cream and keeping the tv, or no ice cream and no tv. Is it a loving parent that follows through with either situation? Sure it is, and a loving father disciplines his children.........

Nobby · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject:

GSnJ, thank you for your very thoughtful post. Very Happy

Nobby · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:10 am Post subject:

TSnJ, I've been more under the weather this week, the doctor said I had acute broncitus. This would be hard on anyone. But to one whose Lungs as shot, it's rough. I'd like to ask you guys for prayers! Smile

golfjack · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:08 am Post subject: reply

Hi Nobby, sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. Will be praying for your complete recovery. God is our healer. Nothing is impossible with God. I can't wait for our redeemer to come for us too.

May God bless, golfjack

t-shirtsnjeans · Tadpole Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 23

In Sorte Diaboli · Newbie Alert Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

T-Shirts wrote:
"Now then, compare this to a loving parent, "If you keep your room clean and your homework done I will take you to get ice cream on friday. If you don't keep your room clean and homework done I will take away your tv." The child has a choice of ice cream and keeping the tv, or no ice cream and no tv. Is it a loving parent that follows through with either situation? Sure it is, and a loving father disciplines his children........."

in sorte diaboli says:
What a ridiculous analogy...Your comparing hell (torture that we can't even imagine with human minds because we have never experienced it) to taking away a t.v. for a time being....meaning that the child will eventually get to watch t.v. again.

You didn't say this though. If the child disobeys you, that you will kill them, because that is what god is going to do, actually he's not, he will not even discipline them (which is a correction over time, not torment) but make them suffer for a time that you can't even imagine. I want you to do that to your children when they disobey you, instead of taking away the ice cream and t.v.