Christians Don't Care

angelhugs · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:07 am Post subject: Christians Don't Care

In my experience Christians don't care and are not willing to give freely
out of their own pockets to help someone in need. Christians are more than
happy to stay uncaring, unloving and not really do what God has commanded
them to do. So, you know what you can talk to me, even email me privately
but I will never ever trust a Christian. They have messed my whole life up
and they don't get involved with abuse survivors and they are quite happy to
keep their money in their own pockets and for their own selfish prideful
reasons only deal with people that God has not commanded them to. So, all
Christians are complete scrooge's.

paul · Little Goldfish Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 51

thanks for the insults nice to hear.
do you know what God as commanded?
why don't you try and help these other Christians if you can see where they're going wrong?
i'm sure there's many Christians who help out in all different fields.
and i'm sure there's many just as you say.
why don't you live this life that God as commanded and show other Christians how it should be done.
i'm not being sarcastic i mean it.
serving God is not about money ,it's good to give up all your money and your time and whatever you have.
the most important thing is saving souls.
Jesus talks that a rich man will hardly ever enter into Heaven.
seems like you may of had a bad expereince and want to blame all Christians.
go ahead everybody else does.
but wouldn't it be more rewarding to you if you were to live the life that they couldn't ,if you could be great in the eyes of God and show them how it should be done.
you may make it to heaven and may see them tossed into hell.
not that i'm encouraging you to be hateful or seek vengence.
evil has it's reward (as in hell) but so does doing good (serving God)
where do you want to go when God judges us all?
don't judge others that's Gods job ,why not make yourself so much better.
by sitting in judgement and wallowing in hatred it only makes you the same as them.
but by serving God to your full potential and not relying on worldly things like others do you can be great in the eyes of God and your reward will be greater than you can imagine in life and in death.(or after death as in Heaven).
God bless.

angelhugs · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:49 am Post subject:

Typical response for someone that truly don't know what they are talking about and don't know me from Adam. After having been in Christian schools most of my life, I know more about what God commands and more about what the Bible says than anyone can ever imagine. You are acting like the typical hypocritical Christian and one that only thinks that the only good we do is if we pray and more. I have helped more people than most Christians have and to tell you the truth I will continue doing it but believe me what I speak is the truth and there are more people like me out there that think this than Christians that are not hypocritical. Take a long hard look at yourself and your Christian walk and talk to God before you respond to me or anyone like you just responded to me.

What I stated in my first post was not insults, it was the cold hard facts and truth and you can't handle them.

paul · Little Goldfish Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 51

don't quite get what your saying.
are you a Christian?
if not what do you mean you know so much about what God commands if you don't serve Him and love Him with all your heart?
you can read the bible has many times as you like but if your hearts not on serving God you'll understand nothing.
so what are you saying you and others who are not Christians can serve God somehow better than those who love Him?
or are you just talking of good deeds and helping others in life?
seems your very proud of yourself for that ,do you desire praise of man for all your good works?
beleive me i've taken a good hard look at myself.
you don't know me from adam so how do you know i'm a hypocrite ,i've bragged up nothing i've done. ,i've actually told you nothing about me or what i have or haven't done?
what truths this then ,i've yet to know what your really talking about ,can't handle what?
i've actually agreed with you that some in the name of Christianity do not always do what they preach.
where exactly are you coming from?
are you saying you're not a Christian but can be more loving to others than a real Christian who's completely devoted to God?

God bless.

Nobby · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:42 pm Post subject: Christians Don't Care

angelhugs · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:52 pm Post subject:

I apologize but believe me I trust no one and at this point in time I don't believe Christians nor do I trust them. In my whole life I have never known a Christian to give of themselves freely and do things that God commanded. They have only abused me and hurt me and more. I didn't mean to post as nasty as I did in my first post, I am sorry. Christians are not to respond the same way I posted and I am sorry. I know more Christians that are abusers and believe me there are more abusers that are in the Church and that are pastors, etc than even you know about. I do have a situation and my new mom and I need me with her for my own safety.

RevJP · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:07 am Post subject:

I think if you did a statistical analysis of the population, you would find that there are abusers everywhere in every walk of life. I believe you would find them in the same porportion as well. There are not more abusers in Christianity - or in organizations that claim Christianity, than there are in other walks of life. You simply have spent most of your life in these organizations and thus have been more acutely aware.

As for the rest - your claims are broad, and far reaching, yet I beleive your actual experience to be much more diminutive than you lead us to believe.

angelhugs · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:49 am Post subject:

What I have said is true and there are more abusers in the church and in Christianity than anyone is willing to admit

RevJP · Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:51 pm Post subject:

Certainly there are abusers in the Church, and abusers who claim themselves Christian, but that does not equate to your claims that all Christians do this or that, or don't care, or don't do the things God commanded them. It does not equate to: All Christians are complete scrooge's.

You've had bad dealings with SOME Christians, and I empathize with you on that. But you do not know ALL Christians, you have not met, or talked to, or had dealings with ALL christians, so your blanketed statements about the spiritual condition of ALL Christians are false.

While I would tend to want to comfort you in your anger and hurt, I would moreso tend to ask you why you let yourself, your life, your feelings, etc. be controlled by something someone did or said to you? It is YOUR life isn't it? It is you (or preferrably GOD and you) who are in control of your life isn't it?

kiwimac · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:28 am Post subject:

Angel,

I am sorry for your experiences. It is unfair and unjust that you should have had them. However let me simply add, not all Muslims fly planes into buildings, not all Hindus practice Suttee and not all Christians are unfeeling swine.

Fiat Pax

Kiwimac

Nobby · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:25 am Post subject:

Hi kiwimac,
Nice post. Very good responce. Glad to have you back. Smile

Did you get a copy of the mass e-mail I sent out this afternoon.
I sent the same e-mail to all the members.
This is a nice board if I can just get some more posters. Very Happy

Thanks,

kiwimac · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:28 am Post subject:

Nobby,

My problem is I belong to so many, I loose track of 'em. Thanks for the reminder.

Kiwimac

BombShelterBob · Not So Newbie Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 9

I agree. Of course the Bible said in the last days people would be like that.
I think most Christians are selfservers, that would never even consider picking up a hitch hiker, or give a dime to a bum on the street. They are not the Christians they like to think they are. They make pillow prophecies, and pat each other on the back for being so faithful. In the last days it's supposed to be like this. If you don't love money, or the praise of men. Maybe you are one of the very few true Christians. I hope so.

luvnlife · Goldfish Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 57

I have seen many Christians open their wallets. I think, however, when it comes to emotional pain, people in general have a difficult time knowing what to say or how to help. Human beings (yes, Christians are human...) are not just uncomfortable when something bad happens to someone we care about but many times we really don't know what to do or say. We worry that we might make a situation worse or that we might be "butting in" where we don't belong. As we grow older, some get better at showing compassion to others and confronting situations but not all.

I do share some of angelhugs pain and I even understand some of what was said. I have felt that bitter and betrayed in the past but not just by Christians. Sometimes I have been serioulsly hurt by members of my own family. Sometimes by friends or acquaintances.

It's not easy to forgive. God wouldn't have to tell us to forgive if it were easy. But when we lay our burden on God and Jesus it frees us up to live our lives and to do better than was done to us. It helps us to release the pain, relinquesh the past.

'Let go and let God' sounds like a catch phrase when in actuality, it is a very freeing experience.

Much Luv,

Luv Smile

luvnlife · Goldfish Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 57

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