Big Bang

larrye · Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:30 pm Post subject: Big Bang

Does it matter if G_D chose the big bang or another way to create everything. G_D still created it all.

mutt · Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 11:09 am Post subject: Big Bang

Yes it does.
When we try to union Scriptures with "Science" it is always Scripture that is expected to yeild.
The "Big Bang" theroy states that the entire cosmos created itself out of nothing, by the catalyst of 'chance'. It flies in the face of the authority which God spoke all into existance. Accepting the 'Big Bang' theory in any portion is not acceptable. Even if you, as a believer, mean that God caused the 'Bang' to one who wants to disprove God will use that one point as a opening to start attacking other points of Truth.
Reasoning: "If there was a big bang, what is to say God didn't put all the componets in place and allow "nature" to shape creation, the days could represent long spans of time with the system completed itself..."
Once you accept anything less than the truth, the rest is open game.
Stay true to Scripture alone.
sola Scriptura
God created the heavens and earth out of nothing. He spoke each part into existance.
It was fully under His control, there was no chaotic burst of energy which brought everything into existance.

How can Nobody plus nothing equal everything?

jesus loves u · Newbie Alert Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Posts: 3

I cant belive that people can actually think that the big bang theory is real. It takes a whole lot of effort for someone to try to prove the big band theory over the factthat God is real.

wasions · Tadpole Joined: 19 Nov 2002 Posts: 18

Every attempt to describe the origen of the universe without God has failed miserably. Each try, including the big bang, goes against every fundamental rule of science and philosophy.

Science says that the only thing that proceeds from nothing, is more nothing. It's the original law of non-contradiction, which states that 'x' can never be equal to 'not x' at the same time. The argument is never resolved until it gets to 'first cause', which can only be an active Creator.

Since we must, by necessity, acknowledge this Creator, it follows that when He's told us how He did it, we would be most prudent to accept that explanation.

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volrath · Newbie Alert Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 2

Yes, theories on where the stuff for the Big Bang is lacking, but so is the theory's around where God came from. Both have the problem as to where they came from

HeavenBND · Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 10:25 am Post subject:

Hello all,

It's hard for me to understand how anyone could believe in the big bang theory or any or theory for that matter, which expels God from His role as creator. I would rather believe in a loving caring God that created all that we see, than to believe in a impersonal chance of cosmic origin. I have faith that God created all that we see, can I prove this? No. Others believe that long geologic ages are the reasons for all the we see. Can they prove their theory? No. Is their theory faith based? Of course.

Evolution is a faith based science, as is Creation. So the question really is what will you believe?

God = All
OR
Random chance = All

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Glorfindel · Tadpole Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 28 Location: UK

What do you mean by the statement

'loving god? when was the last time you read the bible? '

The Bible is the story of our loving God, trying to draw His children back to Himself!

As I look around I see evidence of creation, everything is designed, not randomly created. IMO it takes more faith NOT to believe that the universe was created.

For example, we are implanted with a moral code. Everyone (at least everyone I've met) has a sense that there must be more to life than just what we see here on Earth.

Douay · Tadpole Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 17

Try to disprove God. Your telescope must be broken, the Big Bang theory is a THEORY which has been disproven. To everybody who didn't believe it, why couldn't you just have replaced the point in the universe from which all matter was compressed and exploded forth, with God who stood there with his hand outstrectched.

Douay

Ron · Not So Newbie Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 7

I think Paul, in 1 Corinthians 4:6 warns his readers to not try to make Scripture say something more than it does.

The Bible tells us the "In the beginning God created" (Gen 1:1)

We already know that the universe was created from nothing- by our God.

We do not know when or how. The Bible does not say that creation took place as a big bang or that it happend 15 billion years ago.

We do know that God spoke and everything sprang into existence.

This is one of those things we will be saying "Oh, now I get it" when we are caught up in the cloud to live with Him for eternity. I will wait until then. And then I will really know! Wink

The Barbarian · Not So Newbie Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 7

Good point. Some things, God gave us intelligence to find out for ourselves.

The Big Bang does not contradict God the creator. How could it? He made that, too.

Nobby · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:12 am Post subject: Welcome The Barbarian

The Barbarian,
Welcome to our board Were're new & small but were growing!
Make your self at home. Very Happy

Looking for your posts. Any questions just ask?
Nobby

The Barbarian · Not So Newbie Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 7

Thanks for your kind welcome. I know a number of people, creationists and evolutionists, who enjoy these discussions. Would you like me to tell them about your board?

That would be great! Nobby

RevJP · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:01 pm Post subject:

Where is the threat to creationism and the belief of the miracle of creation if one accepts a 'big bang' as a process of that creation?